User talk:Ikosarakt1

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Purge this page:

Refreshing and purging
Refreshing and purging are different. Refreshing simply reloads the page from the server cache, while purging refreshes the server cache and forces the most recent revision to appear. &#9729; I want more clouds! &#9925; 13:10, June 6, 2013 (UTC)
 * I didn't know such niceties. Ikosarakt1 (talk ^ contribs) 13:29, June 6, 2013 (UTC)


 * And this is why IPs get a confirmation message when they try to purge. If it didn't, then it could be misused for DDoS attacks. -- &#9729; I want more clouds! &#9925; 13:31, June 6, 2013 (UTC)
 * So, must I keep it here or remove it? Ikosarakt1 (talk ^ contribs) 13:44, June 6, 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep. Jiawhien (talk) 04:51, June 9, 2013 (UTC)

hecatonicosihexapentacosiheptacontihexaexon
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=579318135442463&set=a.385472318160380.91481.207201309320816&type=1&relevant_count=1, what dimension is this? Jiawhien (talk) 04:51, June 9, 2013 (UTC)

Just 2nd, since there is no -ract suffix. Ikosarakt1 (talk ^ contribs) 09:02, June 9, 2013 (UTC)

Page
Can find any source and put some content into this wiki? remember to check "previous page" and "next page" too.
 * It is actually can be a source, we don't need to find it. Ikosarakt1 (talk ^ contribs) 09:09, June 9, 2013 (UTC)

Image
I think you get the image from http://www.catonmat.net/blog/busy-beaver, am i smart to find out? Jiawhien (talk) 10:52, June 9, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, I got these images from there. Ikosarakt1 (talk ^ contribs) 11:03, June 9, 2013 (UTC)

Yllion
Shall we remain the

Number Navigator
Previous: nonyllion Next: undecyllion

or Use Template:

Number Navigator
Jiawhien (talk) 03:17, June 10, 2013 (UTC)

And should we \(10^{2^{17}}=10^{131072}\) or \(10^{2^{17}} = 10^{131072}\)? And the diffrences of these 2 is the 1st one does not have space between the equal sign and the 2nd one have the space bar between the equal sign. Check the source, got a tiny differences. Jiawhien (talk) 03:26, June 10, 2013 (UTC)


 * I think, in both cases, the latter would be better. — ☁ I want more clouds! ⛅ 03:53, June 10, 2013 (UTC)
 * You chose the second one, so now, ikosarakt shall respond too. Jiawhien (talk) 04:01, June 10, 2013 (UTC)
 * For the first, we must use template, as it more compact. As for second, there is no big matter which one we shall use. Ikosarakt1 (talk ^ contribs) 12:01, June 10, 2013 (UTC)

Age
if not secret you are 16 years old?(Konkhra talk) 11:19, June 13, 2013 (UTC).
 * Actually I'm 15. Whence you guess that I'm 16? Also, how old are you? Ikosarakt1 (talk ^ contribs) 11:42, June 13, 2013 (UTC)
 * Well, I'm 19, you wrote about 500 000 000 seconds your life. it's about 16 :-) Konkhra (talk) 09:39, October 1, 2013 (UTC)

Number
Shall i put aarex numbers to this wiki? like Terribegocal? like i added meameamealokkapoowa bipoowa in this wiki, so shall we add the rest? 220.255.2.98 12:14, June 13, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, and don't forget to add the sources. Ikosarakt1 (talk ^ contribs) 12:15, June 13, 2013 (UTC)
 * Ok, that will be a lot of things. 220.255.2.174 12:17, June 13, 2013 (UTC)

So, you know which forcal number surpasses the chained level? Jiawheein (talk) 13:30, June 15, 2013 (UTC)
 * I guess that there are no number based on forcal and that can go beyond {a,b,c,d}. Ikosarakt1 (talk ^ contribs) 17:25, June 15, 2013 (UTC)

Ahh, there is more forcal numbers, i am tired of it, someone add instead. JiawheinGoogol (talk) 10:49, June 18, 2013 (UTC)

And, there is another aarex site, is https://sites.google.com/site/mybeaf/home. JiawheinGoogol (talk) 10:49, June 18, 2013 (UTC)

Main page
Can you unprotect it for few hours and protect again? because i have to edit. JiawheinGoogol (talk) 10:36, June 18, 2013 (UTC)

I unprotected it, but I shall look at your edits on that. Ikosarakt1 (talk ^ contribs) 10:49, June 18, 2013 (UTC)


 * Done. JiawheinGoogol (talk) 10:57, June 18, 2013 (UTC)

cube using the laptop/computer
I ask you a thing, since you are a hypercube, then how are you using the keyboard (a cube using.). Jiawheein (talk) 12:15, June 17, 2013 (UTC)

Using the magic spells. Ikosarakt1 (talk ^ contribs) 12:22, June 17, 2013 (UTC)

I guess he uses one of his 3-dimensional embeddings to coexist with us AND use keyboard. LittlePeng9 (talk) 12:44, June 17, 2013 (UTC)

aarexes
His other site is https://sites.google.com/site/mybeaf/home

and

shall we also put the numbers from

https://sites.google.com/site/aarexnumbers/home/full-book, https://sites.google.com/site/aarexnumbers/home/flo2i, https://sites.google.com/site/aarexnumbers/home/asei, https://sites.google.com/site/aarexnumbers/home/mega, https://sites.google.com/site/aarexnumbers/hyperop, https://sites.google.com/site/aarexnumbers/aan ? JiawheinGoogol (talk) 11:50, June 19, 2013 (UTC)

Yes, Aarex's numbers are notable for us. We must add all them. Ikosarakt1 (talk ^ contribs) 11:55, June 19, 2013 (UTC)

You shall check the spellings of the nested hyper e numbers. JiawheinGoogol (talk) 12:54, June 21, 2013 (UTC)

No misspellings. Ikosarakt1 (talk ^ contribs) 13:00, June 21, 2013 (UTC)

Now, check (patrol) his illion numbers. IAmJiawhein (talk) 11:37, June 26, 2013 (UTC) And, add which class is that. IAmJiawhein (talk) 11:43, June 26, 2013 (UTC)

Do we have to remove the Numbers by aarex tiaokhiao category like Vigintillion, Centillion and some other numbers in the source? Because the numbers centillion 10^300 is coined by aarex while not 10^303. IAmJiawhein (talk) 13:17, June 26, 2013 (UTC)

Yes, we must remove it because their names weren't coined by him. Ikosarakt1 (talk ^ contribs) 13:22, June 26, 2013 (UTC)


 * Done, i have finished the aarex endleek illions. IAmJiawhein (talk) 13:50, June 26, 2013 (UTC)


 * Good work. Ikosarakt1 (talk ^ contribs) 15:37, June 26, 2013 (UTC)


 * I donno the class of the Vamossol numbers so, you add. 220.255.1.139 13:03, June 27, 2013 (UTC)
 * Your picture is in Meganossol. 220.255.1.119 05:44, June 28, 2013 (UTC)

IP
Unblock the whole 220.255.1.XX because i left my this ip to contribute or i may not be able to edit anymore. IAmJW (talk) 04:11, June 27, 2013 (UTC)
 * I can't unblock the staff-typed block. Ikosarakt1 (talk ^ contribs) 09:32, June 27, 2013 (UTC)
 * I unblocked the local one. Is there a global block left? -- ☁ I want more clouds! ⛅ 10:03, June 27, 2013 (UTC)
 * Oh yes, actually is the local one and the major problem is my accounts keep getting disabled. 220.255.1.169 12:33, June 27, 2013 (UTC)
 * If i cannot edit the wiki for few days, that means that i am blocked completely. 220.255.1.113 13:22, June 27, 2013 (UTC)
 * I have sent a message to Wikia, regarding about giving you a second chance. Hope this helps! -- ☁ I want more clouds! ⛅ 13:02, June 27, 2013 (UTC)
 * If got second chance, then i stop using profanity at the ip 207.159.196.253 But if not, then i will do this and spread very fast. 220.255.1.113 13:22, June 27, 2013 (UTC)
 * But you hate Wikia? Ikosarakt1 (talk ^ contribs) 13:56, June 27, 2013 (UTC)
 * Spefic people. 220.255.1.139 04:10, June 28, 2013 (UTC)

And I got a response for my message from Wikia. It says: Brandon Rhea, Jun 27 02:35 pm (UTC): Hello,

Thanks for contacting Wikia. Global blocks are between Wikia and blocked users, and it is our policy not to discuss them with third parties.

Best regards,

Brandon Rhea Wikia Community Support

Cloudy 17, Jun 27 12:53 pm (UTC): On Googology Wiki (http://googology.wikia.com), Jiawhein is creating many alternative accounts to evade account disabling. He does constructive edits on this wiki, minus a few harassments.

So please give Jiawhein a second chance. Tell him to not harass people again, and stop disabling his accounts.

Thanks, Cloudy So, unfortunately, I cannot do anything about Jiawhein's global block. -- ☁ I want more clouds! ⛅ 05:24, June 28, 2013 (UTC)


 * So, is it stop disable and unblock the ip? 220.255.1.117 05:32, June 28, 2013 (UTC)

FB100Z
He has not been editing this wiki for few whole days, so is he dead already? 220.255.1.170 12:38, June 27, 2013 (UTC)


 * Looks like you forgot this. -- ☁ I want more clouds! ⛅ 12:41, June 27, 2013 (UTC)
 * He can still edit in europe... 220.255.1.149 12:59, June 27, 2013 (UTC)
 * You so worry about his Wiki Life badge? Ikosarakt1 (talk ^ contribs) 13:13, June 27, 2013 (UTC)
 * Not really, but he is an beruauct and the founder. 220.255.1.144 13:24, June 27, 2013 (UTC)


 * But it doesn't mean he can't have a break from this wiki. He deserves it. LittlePeng9 (talk) 13:59, June 27, 2013 (UTC)
 * Oh hey guys, what's up? FB100Z &bull; talk &bull; contribs 23:09, July 3, 2013 (UTC)
 * As for editing in Europe: I couldn't. I chose not to bring any electronic devices (I needed a break from the Internets) and the wifi in Italian hotels is pretty crappy anyway. FB100Z &bull; talk &bull; contribs 23:11, July 3, 2013 (UTC)
 * I can't afford to delay a day in GWiki since I want to get "A Wiki Hero!" badge. Ikosarakt1 (talk ^ contribs) 17:50, July 4, 2013 (UTC)

BEAN
Was it really necessary to go changing everything from BEAF to BEAN? FB100Z &bull; talk &bull; contribs 14:38, July 5, 2013 (UTC)

The matter of BEAF and BEAN are different. BEAF is a function that use three informal rules and definitions described on multiple pages on Bowers' site. It is supposed to handle and solve any structure, even such as EX##X or SCG(X). It just uses the fact that the number of entries in the array can be computed turning all X's to p's in it, e.g. SCG(X) & 3 will have SCG(3) entries.

Since BEAF need some structures, some notations for it must be invented. So, BEAN is a couple of notations that Bowers' made just to indicate some structures. When we write {3,3,3,3}, it is BEAN, but must be solved with BEAF. So, I made the changes. Ikosarakt1 (talk ^ contribs) 15:15, July 5, 2013 (UTC)

But Bowers defined his numbers in BEAF, not in BEAN. BEAN isn't something that Bowers defined. I think we should use BEAF, until Bowers defines SCG(X)&3 or something. Wythagoras (talk) 15:25, July 5, 2013 (UTC)

This site differs BEAN and BEAF by the way. The limit of BEAN is below Church-Kleene ordinal (as Bowers didn't define non-recursive notations), while BEAF is virtually unlimited to-extend (order type \(\omega_1\), which measures the limit of countable structures in principle). Ikosarakt1 (talk ^ contribs) 15:34, July 5, 2013 (UTC)

Bowers said: this numbers will discribed with my Exploding Array Function here Wythagoras (talk) 16:14, July 5, 2013 (UTC)

The distinction between BEAN and BEAF is complicated and confusing to readers. Why not just keep it simple and just use the name Bowers did? FB100Z &bull; talk &bull; contribs 16:35, July 5, 2013 (UTC)

Please stop with changing BEAF to BEAN until we have maked a decision. Wythagoras (talk) 18:16, July 5, 2013 (UTC)

Okay, so I must write "BEAN" only in my sub-space. Ikosarakt1 (talk ^ contribs) 18:24, July 5, 2013 (UTC)

Yes, not in the articles, I think, until we have maked a decision. Wythagoras (talk) 18:30, July 5, 2013 (UTC)

Logue pages
Look at my fixed approxmations please, you are making mistakes. Wythagoras (talk) 18:43, July 7, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, the mistake is one term in a power tower. Ikosarakt1 (talk ^ contribs) 18:46, July 7, 2013 (UTC)

Also a mistake in HAN: 16!2 should be 17!1 for example Wythagoras (talk) 18:47, July 7, 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, I just rushed myself to get more edits. I shall be more accurate further. Ikosarakt1 (talk ^ contribs) 18:53, July 7, 2013 (UTC)

You make the same mistake again: by Hardy and FGH one term. f_4(5) should be f_4(4) for example. Wythagoras (talk) 16:04, July 8, 2013 (UTC)

I shall fix these mistakes after next patrolling. Ikosarakt1 (talk ^ contribs) 16:07, July 8, 2013 (UTC)

500000000
On my birthday you wrote on 8th of July you'll hit your half-billionth second. Coincidentally, today I visited my talk page and saw this. So congratulations! I have to check when my half-billion mark will be. LittlePeng9 (talk) 20:05, July 8, 2013 (UTC)

Happy half-billionth second! I hit mine way back in January. FB100Z &bull; talk &bull; contribs 21:08, July 8, 2013 (UTC)

Thank you. More exactly, I hit it at 15:33:20 (By the Russian time). Ikosarakt1 (talk ^ contribs) 06:12, July 9, 2013 (UTC)

Happy 50 googolth tritento-second :-D Wythagoras (talk) 08:39, July 9, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. I wonder if units below Planckian exist. Ikosarakt1 (talk ^ contribs) 08:42, July 9, 2013 (UTC)

Sourceless pages from the Made-up Era
I found a load of sourceless pages, almost all pages here are sourceless. ( source is about 100-150 bytes ) These are all stupid pages like giggollakhplex. We should delete them, or ask Aarex to put them on his site. Wythagoras (talk) 10:49, July 15, 2013 (UTC)


 * Why don't just use Special:ShortPages? -- ☁ I want more clouds! ⛅ 12:16, July 15, 2013 (UTC)

Let Aarex will get these names on his site. Ikosarakt1 (talk ^ contribs) 11:01, July 15, 2013 (UTC)

Aarex has made these numbers Wythagoras (talk) 11:04, July 15, 2013 (UTC)

He just put names on these numbers. He can't made a number because it's an abstraction. Ikosarakt1 (talk ^ contribs) 11:11, July 15, 2013 (UTC)

What??? Wythagoras (talk) 11:26, July 15, 2013 (UTC)

All numbers are abstract, that means they exist even if they were not discovered and/or named. I recommend you a video "Do numbers EXIST?" by the way. LittlePeng9 (talk) 11:45, July 15, 2013 (UTC)

Get it, of course do numbers exist  :-)  Wythagoras (talk) 13:17, July 15, 2013 (UTC)

I'm rather platonist, so I believe numbers exist, but "of course" part suggests you can prove this. I'm waiting for your proof :) LittlePeng9 (talk) 13:24, July 15, 2013 (UTC)

Category 3 entry linear
the logue numbers belong in this category, because they can be expressed as {a,b,c} in BEAF. Wythagoras (talk) 13:09, July 22, 2013 (UTC)

They weren't defined with 3 entrical BEAN. Ikosarakt1 (talk ^ contribs) 13:36, July 22, 2013 (UTC)

But they can be expressed as {a,b,c} in BEAF/BEAN. for example ogdatalogue = {10,80,2} Wythagoras (talk) 13:45, July 22, 2013 (UTC)

Your edits last time
Something strange happens after your edits: the headings are ===Something=== and hyperlinks are Something and some of the text

is in code/formatted Please look what went wrong. Wythagoras (talk) 18:35, August 6, 2013 (UTC)

It is important! look what you have done to the grangolgong page! Wythagoras (talk) 18:43, August 6, 2013 (UTC)

It still happens. Please look to your talk page! Wythagoras (talk) 14:29, August 7, 2013 (UTC)

Sorry for spamming your talk page, but it still happens. Wythagoras (talk) 18:57, August 7, 2013 (UTC)

When I edited from the mobile, I got technical difficulties, but now I can see the problem. This built-in browser removes "Enters" from each line and the text starts to look awkward. Moreover, there are pretty small number of bytes for which I can deal, so in big articles the part of text just cuts. Ikosarakt1 (talk ^ contribs) 12:08, August 8, 2013 (UTC)

When you edit in source mode (on mobile only source is available) you have to make 2 Enters to go down, otherwise it will be ignored. This may be part of a problem. LittlePeng9 (talk) 12:17, August 8, 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I know, but with Enters the strings escape some window and if it happens, some content loses and I save the page without it. Also, the edit action was unavailable and I used "?action=edit" in order to get the edit page. Ikosarakt1 (talk ^ contribs) 17:20, August 8, 2013 (UTC)

Стасплекс
Is it "Stasplex" in English (or any other language which uses Latin alphabet)? Wythagoras (talk) 18:40, August 24, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, read it like that. Ikosarakt1 (talk ^ contribs) 19:32, August 24, 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I've put it in the article. Should we create category "Asian Googolisms" or something? Since there are now 7 Asian Googolisms. Wythagoras (talk) 06:50, August 25, 2013 (UTC)
 * 1) The name of the number was coined in Moscow I believe (since the author works there), and the Moscow is in Europe.
 * 2) As for category, yes, we need it. But Stasplex mustn't lie in this category.
 * 3) Also, "googologism", not "googolism". Ikosarakt1 (talk ^ contribs) 10:15, August 25, 2013 (UTC)

Jiawhein is still working for us
Since the block of his IP range on June 28, Jiawhein is still working on googology, using his user page on Wikipedia:. What do you think about it? -- ☁ I want more clouds! ⛅ 06:52, September 7, 2013 (UTC)
 * He very much loves googology! Konkhra (talk) 07:06, September 7, 2013 (UTC)
 * Well, he is definitely an addicted googologist like me. Ikosarakt1 (talk ^ contribs) 08:55, September 7, 2013 (UTC)


 * I'm not addicted to googology anymore, but I hope to still be a part of this community. LittlePeng9 (talk) 13:13, September 7, 2013 (UTC)

hello!
I am back! It's jiawhein, real not fake, my block is over so staff no block, i am back, however I am busy, like revising for my test, means I shall be back in this wiki in a month or two. I dislike the ip 207... Due to SS. But anyways it's nice to see you again. The block expired in 28-9. 220.255.2.108 09:00, September 29, 2013 (UTC)

And can you undelete jiawhien? Thanks. 220.255.2.145 09:03, September 29, 2013 (UTC)
 * Hello and welcome back! I restored your page. Ikosarakt1 (talk ^ contribs) 10:02, September 29, 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the restore. I am semi active. I shall now move the wikipedia content in my wikipedia userpage to the unexisted pages. And i shall re create account soon. 220.255.2.99 10:19, September 29, 2013 (UTC)

Leisure
mine is estp, what is yours? http://www.16personalities.com/free-personality-test JiawhienIsBackNoEvadeBlockOnceAgainIComeBack (talk) 09:14, October 1, 2013 (UTC)

Exact values
In my opinion, a header "Approximation or exact value" doesn't sound well. My idea is to leave this as "Approximation" and simply write "(exact value)" after approximation if two numbers equal (after all, number is its own approximation to infinite precision). LittlePeng9 (talk) 20:34, October 16, 2013 (UTC)